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Here's the keys, I'm going fishing [19 Mar 2007|09:42am]

[ mood | touched ]

10:58 AM 3/18/07 · One of my favorite shows of all time has been Inside the Actor's Studio. As I love to be asked questions it's probably not surprising that I really enjoy viewing a good interview. At the end of the show there's this much more succinct round of questions that everyone interviewed is asked. Personally, I love all of them, they're brilliant questions, but it's the very last one I wanna focus on here...

...and of course, have you answer:

  • If Heaven exists, what would you like to hear God say to you when you arrive at the Pearly Gates?

If you haven't seen the show but would like to, it comes on multiple times a week so check your local listings. I catch it Sunday mornings at 10am on Bravo.
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footsteps on the path [12 Mar 2007|08:09am]

[ mood | awake ]

Whatever your spiritual/religious belief system is, when the time comes that you pass from this Existance and go into the Next, how do you think you'll feel when you discover whatever it is you think you know as the Truth turns out not to be?

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Nicknames [07 Mar 2007|03:08pm]

[ mood | quixotic ]

A while back, it seems like an eternity, I asked why it was that people tend to refer to God as just "God". I'm not asking that now, answers were all very satisfactory at the time...

...but I am wondering something else along similar lines.

Do you ever refer to God, or Jesus, as something other than those names? More friendly, kinda conversational. Se, I don't pray in the strictest sense. Be I at a church or just going about my day...I chat. Start with a something as insignificant as "How's your day going?" and off I go from there.

Point is, as I would when chatting with anybody, I don't always use just the generic presented name. Originally I referred to God as "The Creator", which is mildly ominous but accurate. Then, in passing, as the Big Guy. Sometimes just as Big G.

In referring to Jesus, to God, I either go with "the Kid" or simply just "J".

Anybody else do anything like this?

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There's much of the Torah in the Bible... [27 Feb 2007|08:04am]

[ mood | enthralled ]

...but I think they left some stuff out.

8:13 PM 2/26/07 · Those more learned than I can probably reflect on this and bring it into clearer focus. Then again, one such type person actually got me onto this line of thought about 5 months back when he revealed to me that something a lot of Christians are aware of isn't actually mentioned anywhere in the Bible. Keeping in mind that not all of the faith actually believe in a Devil or Hell for that matter, this still seems kinda odd for me.

Actually, I'm a bit confused how the faith can exist without a bad place really. Isn't that the dividing line? Lead what is deemed the ideal life and go onto Heaven but if you're bad you're gonna burn...

The story that many know goes that the Devil was once an angel by the name of Lucifer and was among God's favorites. There was some disagreement, I've heard various versions of what it may've been about, and it was of such magnitude that Lucifer was booted out of Heaven and locked in the basement; a cute colorful reference I've heard used for Hell sometimes. Other angels were likewise knocked down there, guess Lucifer had a gang, and that was about that.

This story is not in the Bible in any variation that I am aware of...yet many of the faithful know it. After I learned it wasn't in the Bible I chatted with what few friends I have that like that sort of thing, even those that just label it as Christian mythology. All were as surprised as me that it's not in there.

The thought occurs to me that a lot of what is in the Bible is drawn from the Torah, as Christianity was literally spawned from Judaism. As much as the really religious like to slam Dan Brown there are things he's gone on about that tracks with other religious history I've heard; and by heard I mean from you guys. When the Bible was first being put into print, or I suppose inscribed might be more accurate, there was a great council/committee assembled to undergo the task. There was much debating among them about what should go into the Bible and what should not. Stuff like the Gospel of Judas Escariot was definitely out for understanable reasons...

...although how a guy can be deemed a traitor before he even had the thought of betraying anyone escapes me...

...so what I'm wondering is if the story regarding the fall of Lucifer and his rebirth as the Devil might've been in the Torah and just not made the cut for getting into the Bible. Makes me wonder what other things weren't included.

There's another tale I'm familiar with, of so called Christian mythology, that I'm fairly positive isn't in the Bible...but I could be wrong; let me know. It goes along the lines that Adam & Eve were not the first two humans...or more precisely Eve wasn't the first woman. God created a man and a woman and dubbed them Adam & Lilith and they were equal. Apparently upon their first coupling Adam had a major problem with the fact that Lilith wished to be on top, complained to God...and thus Eve was created from a part of Adam.

I've always had a problem with this story, not the least of which is I'm not sure of its authenticity. I know it's a truly ancient tale, and it would go a long way to fitting the timeframe's belief in woman are meant to be inferior to men as was the custom at the time. Not the least of which that I didn't think any coupling was going on in the Garden of Eden, thought that didn't come up as the fun activity we all know and love until much after the expulsion from paradise...

...and not to get too personal, possibly worthy of a different type of community, that's actually a favorite position of mine. Adam clearly had issues!

Regardless, I don't recall any mention of Lilith in the Bible, as the first woman or otherwise. Although history has seen fit to make most mentionings of her as some form of demon.

My question is are these tales, and others I'm not aware of, accurate? Were they originally in the Torah and not included in the Bible for some reason? Is it possible they were just of the oral tradition and deemed unnecessary to be included in the Bible?

Better still, do you know either of these two stories and where do you know them from?

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it's all kinda basic really [16 Feb 2007|11:39am]

[ mood | productive ]

Maybe it's my whole acknowledging more than one God thing but when you come right down to it there's a little something funny in the water here. I mean the Greeks had the god Zeus and his extended family to worshipm the Norse had Odin and his extended family to worship, the Wiccans have Gaea, the Egyptians...you get the idea. It's pretty much a deity and his or her bretheren guarding over a specific group of people.

When Moses popped up with his whole "Let my people go!" riff he was a representative of their god (who is generally just known as 'God'; it;'s all about the capital G wth this one). The Egyptians did not discredit the existance of this deity but simply labelled It has was appropriate from their point of view; God of the Jews.

Time goes on, things change, a nice wholesome virgin girl gives birth to Jesus/Yeshua/whatever name you choose to refer to him by; the son of God (big G). For the longest time I didn't wholly buy that the Christians, as a whole, believed Jesus was actually God given flesh and not just the son of...but a post I made to that effect a couple weeks back has shown otherwise. However, this does represent a mildly odd problem when you think about it...

...least when I do.

The Jews worship God.

The Christians worship Jesus.

While it can be argued, and it is by many of them, that the Christians acknowledge that Jesus is in fact God (little g)...the Jews do not share this opinion. Seeing as it was their God (big G) first then it stands to reason they should be the authority on this.

So which way do we look here?

Jesus and God are different beings, said so by the different people that worship them. The Chrisitians can toss up that "Holy Trinity" bit as much as they like but without the faith that God originated from backing the concept (an oddly polytheistic "3 as 1" concept no matter how you slice it) then it can not be used as an irrefutable fact.


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Funny Ha Ha [21 Jan 2007|07:21pm]

[ mood | giggly ]

I suspect there are a lot of them out there but I only know a couple. With all the humor that seems to surround Jesus, in the form of standup comedy and stuyff we pick up in school, you'd think there'd be a lot of them. Short of cracking open a joke book and going to the religious humor I can't name that many...

...but as I said, I know two.

Warning: contents may be sacriligiousCollapse )

Do you know any Jesus jokes?

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this kinda stuff comes to me when I'm on the toilet [19 Jan 2007|03:47pm]

[ mood | I'm a little acidic ]

Preamble: So far as I remember God never appeared in human form to anybody. I'm not one that believes Jesus was God in human form but even if that were the case that would be God as Jesus but not God as God. God appeared to people as a burning bush and a ray of light and possibly some animal representation in one form or another. I'm sure there were many others...but God as God never appears to people as a person.

Question: If God never appeared to people as a person then why is it that it was so long the viewpoint of many to picture God as a very old man with a long flowing beard?

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Personally I say yes! [12 Jan 2007|04:39pm]

[ mood | weird ]

Was having one of my usual odd religious chats, sparked by my always bizarre religious posts, when this came up. Because of it, rather that going on into an extensively lengthy post (preamble is my family's genetic curse), I have one simple question for you.

Can God be sexy?

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Happy Holidays! [22 Dec 2006|11:15am]

[ mood | silly ]

In my continued quest to come up with a question that no one can quote scripture at me for...

Let's say, hypothetically, God pops up in front of you and asks for a cookie. What kind would you get?

Obviously there's no wrong answer to this but feel free to explain your response.

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I may wander a bit here [04 Dec 2006|11:03am]

[ mood | energetic ]

I've never fully gotten why God decided, for however long It was sitting there before the idea came to mind, to make us. Yes, it's the age old "Why are we here?" with a bit of a twist but I really don't see the point.

Don't get me wrong. I'm very happy to be here...this is not a complaint. It just doesn't make any sense.

God is supposedly all knowing (oniscient) and all powerful (omnipotent) so it's not like It was lacking anything prior to our being on the scene. I've heard people say that we are here to love God but that just makes the Big Huy seem overly vain and narcissistic. Others say that we're a part of a puzzle and that at some undisclosed point in the future we'll do something that will give God a clue...

...course, both of these kinda fall in the face of the omnipotent & omniscient aspects.

My age old desire to be buried with a baseball bat so that when I get up there I can give God a piece of my mind and bash It in the big toe...


...notwithstanding my belief that the "made in his image" bit meant more soul and not form; I keep the image in my head that God's an amorphous purple blob with a large unblinking eye just off center...

*we bring you back to the previously viewed rant*

...for not leaving clear and concise directions. You'd think such a divinity would've been able to leave better directions than the confusing mess that is the average VCR instruction manual. Actually, compared to most religious texts, VCR directions make a lot more sense.


Okay, rant done. May not've made much sense but I gotta goto work now.

Why do you (yeah you) think we're here?

in my continued quest to write something no one can quote scripture at me for

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What's in a name anyway? [29 Nov 2006|05:10pm]

[ mood | full ]

This is kinda touching on a post I made last night about taking God's name in vain, though not entirely. The thing of it is that when you come right down to it no one really takes God's name in vain because "God" isn't a name.

It's a title.

It's a position of status.

It's the sign you'd see on God's cubicle...if God were the type of deity to sit in a cubicle.

I've never quite understood why it is no one refers to God by an actual name, instead going with the title. This is not a problem you get with polytheists...although that might be that since you're dealing with a multitude of gods in those instances it would be a little confusing to refer to each one as simply "God". Suppose if it were the title and the field of expertise that might work but really...

...names are much simpler.

A stretch back I figured Islam had the leading edge on the whole use of name thing...until someone explained to me that "Allah" is just "God" in another language.

Oh well.

The name in vain post popped up the possible reason that it used to be very bad mojo (for wont of a better word) to actually refer to God by a name. Sadly I was kinda floating on fumes of caffine at the time and don't remember why that is so let's stick with the essentials; maybe that same person will revisit that response and remind me.

Near as I know, from a Judeo/Christian perspective, God has two perfectly decent names to work with...maybe just one because I heard there was something of a scandal on one of them; no, I don't remember what. Those names are Jehovah (scandalized one) and Yaweh. These are two really nice, happy, easy to remember names.

Why doesn't anybody use them? Why is it all about the title and not the name?

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using the name in vain [28 Nov 2006|04:40pm]

[ mood | mischievous ]

This post has been edited by multiple evil LJ·cuts to spare the innocent!

9:14 PM 11/7/06 · I was watching something with a lot of priests in it and I got rather fixated on this. When something really bad happens or whatever they have this tendency to cross themselves, grab some beads and rub them, and say something along the lines of "Great God" or "By all that is Holy" or any number of other things. So, I'm wondering if it's not having beads or not crossing yourself that makes it bad if you belt out a whopping profanityCollapse ) or something like that. I mean the Holy implies a certain level of godliness but to the best of my knowledge no one worships wasteCollapse ).

Granted, most folks mean things a bit more harsh than this sorta thing. More like vainCollapse ) Now I've really never understood why that one's taking the name in vain at all. First off, it's the guy's name...or more a name and title association sorta deal. Still though, where's the harm? It's not like he's peeking down from on High and getting his nose all scrunched up whenever his name is uttered by someone as an exclamation that doesn't happen to have one of those tasteful little white collars.

Let's try a particularly baddie. Some folks are rather fond, for the littlest thing, of shouting out with much anger pestilanceCollapse ) which admittedly is pretty bad but more from a potty mouth perspective than in trying to get the Big Guy peeved at us. There are those that go the extra mile and toss in the far famed "F" word to make profanityCollapse ) which is just ever so lovely.

Does it really make that much difference for an officiary of the church to say this kinda stuff what with the crossing themselves and the beads and the rest of the accoutraments? I mean, such a person is probably not ever going to say profanityCollapse ) but if they did would it be better for them to do so than Joe Schmoe after he stubbed his toe?

Why is this so bad?

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Not what you came with but what you've done [13 Nov 2006|10:13am]

[ mood | indescribable ]

1:00 PM 11/12/06 · I've never been a big fan of an ancient belief, that is still practiced in the world today, that the sins of the father are visited upon his children. It's not limited in scope to just that, pretty much any ancestor done wrong and the descendents get blamed.

What a crock of *insert appropriate word here*!

Not surprisingly, to me at any rate, as an extension to this I don't believe in original sin. It just doesn't make any sense to me. Sure, folks sin but they shouldn't be blamed for the sins of others just because of some distant familial line. If I'm not mistaken, the whole original sin package stems from either Adam & Eve (snacking on the fruit of knowledge) or Cain killing Abel (nothing like a little sibling rivalry).

Either way, their sins were their sins. No one elses.

However, people do sin; it's a thing! There does seem to be some waywardness in what is and isn't a sin depending on a person's belief system. However, let's keep this fairly simple.

What are your sins? Yeah, you...the person reading this. If you're so gung ho on everybody sinning then you must have some idea what your own sins are.

Care to share with the class?

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admittedly silly [24 Oct 2006|09:51am]

[ mood | silly ]

What's the Bible's stance on pets? Will Sparky be up in Heaven waiting for us? Damned loyal and good natured as cats go. What about my dog Heidi; will we be able to play fetch there? Well, her version which is I toss the ball and she goes after it and then I chase her down and wrestle the goopy tennis ball outta her jaws.

It's a thing.

Do pets, and animals in general, make it to Heaven?

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God made me goofy [09 Oct 2006|10:58am]

[ mood | curious ]

Do you suppose Jesus was a cat person or a dog person?

Why do you feel this way?

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Thoughts on God [05 Oct 2006|11:13am]

[ mood | stressed ]

Figured this was as good a day for this as any seeing as, for some reason beyond the ken of man, livejournal posts hit an all·time low on Thursdays.

before you look under here keep in mind that God made me this wayCollapse )

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Young, Hip, and Muslim? [22 Aug 2006|12:11am]

Salaam Aleykoom!

I'm a young American Muslim who is sick and tired of only hearing about Islam in headlines. So I've started a new line of clothing and gifts that is geared towards young, modern Muslims who are ready to make their own headlines. Some political, some funny, some religious, and lots of ARABIC! So check it out, please spread the word if you dig it, and check in periodically for new designs.

And if you like it, WEAR IT WITH PRIDE!

American Muslim

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My Introduction [30 Aug 2005|03:48pm]
Hi, my name is Dennis. I'm 25 years old, and I'm a songwriter and poet. I have been recently re-awakened to God's Unwavering Love. I've spent the majority of my search for God either in the Christian religion or in 'New Age' spirituality, which I feel is becoming a religion in its own right nowadays. It is through the Christian religion that God has most recently spoken to me, although I cannot claim to believe that Jesus Christ died for my sins and is my personal Lord and Saviour. I don't believe what I read or what I'm told when it comes to my relationship with God, so I have to trust what I feel. And what I feel is that God is Love - a Love so all-encompassing as to be truly mind-boggling.
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Little intro. [25 Aug 2005|09:53pm]

Hello, my name is Sarah. I'm 16, am not entirely normal in any American standard, but have lived in the same NY town my whole life. I've just gotten into going on walks with my dog in my fields because it feels so free. I really have no social life - I was part of a couple terrible relationships that completely destroyed my other relationships and desire for them. I just switched cashier jobs from Sears to Target and I am not liking the factory work aspect. I started going to AA in April with my father who is five years in recovery. With all the people who don't want me there its losing its pull. My father has always been a pagan/taoist influence, even when I couldn't stand his guts. I grew up with the Sevenfold Law. My own beliefs are strong in Taoism, partial Dianic, and basically anything that relates to me. I'm thinking of it as a New Age, Occultism, Ecclecticism type deal, but I won't commit myself to anything - beliefs are not permanent, labels shouldn't exist for them, and my memory is so weak I don't always remember to give thanks, pray, meditate, or whatever. Anyway, hi. I'm just trying to find myself and go with the flow. I'm reading three books at the moment - being the geek that I am (: (1984, On Writing Well, The Witch Book, and Hardcore Zen...So four books.) Just thought I'd poke my nose in.
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[04 Aug 2005|10:58am]

Hi! My name is Ana and I'm so glad that I came across this community because I'm interested in any and all religions. I was baptized in the United Church of Christ, but my family (Mom a lapsed Protestant, Dad a lapsed Catholic) drifted away from religion when I was three or four, so I don't really remember church too well. When I was six, I decided I wanted to be Jewish, so I made my family celebrate Hannukah and Purim. That lasted for about a year, when I started holding Christian church services for my stuffed animals. At nine, I was atheist, and that lasted for quite awhile. It wasn't until I was twelve or thirteen and started reading about Buddhism that I really became interested in religion again. I experimented with paganism awhile, and no I'm comfortable with my religious limbo.

I think the religion that most closely fits my beliefs is Buddhism, but even that isn't perfect. I love Christianity, but can't believe in it. I still like my old pagan deities. I can't commit to the strict idea of one God or I'd be a Sikh. *shrugs* Guess that's why I'm here.
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